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The draft Community Transport Management Plan dated September 2000 was exhibited at the beginning of December. There was no community group or representative involved in the preparation of the draft. This is the Rhodes Peninsula Group's comments on the draft Transport Management Plan. It was annexed to the Letter of 29 January, 2001to DUAP in response to the exhibition of draft Community Development, Transport Management and Development Control Plans over the Christmas Holiday Period 2000-2001. DUAP declined the request of the Council of the City of Canada Bay for an extension to 1 March (and allowed only 1 week to 8 February). Page numbers are from the draft Transport Management Plan Page
9 - Influence of Western Sydney Orbital Rhodes
Peninsula Group Detailed
Comments on September 2000 Draft Transport
Management Plan Page
9 - Influence of Western Sydney Orbital “Future
Influences” includes the statement “continued
growth in arterial traffic flows (which could be
influenced to some extent if/when the Sydney
Western Orbital (sic) route is constructed)”.
The report is deficient in not mentioning whether
the future traffic flows provided later in the
report are influenced by the Western Sydney
Orbital (WSO), if built. The impact of the WSO in
reducing traffic flows was mentioned in the DUAP
report to the Minister on the draft REP public
comments. Whilst there may be some lateral flow-on
effects, it is difficult to see how a road which
does not come within 20 kms of Ryde Bridge and
which has 5 or 6 significant intervening parallel
routes will have any impact on Ryde Bridge traffic
flows. ACTION DUAP: Please advise
whether the WSO has been allowed for in estimating
the future traffic flows, If so, to what extent it
impacts on flows and please provide the supporting
origin/destination survey information on which
this estimate is made (i.e. the proportion of
drivers who travel from Liverpool to Hornsby via
Ryde Bridge). Page
11 - Table 4.3 - No Support for Modal Choice
Targ It
seems that the modal choice targets from the Dec
1998 study have been adopted. In the June 1991
“Rhodes Peninsula Traffic and Transport Study”
by TEC, a survey was carried out of the transport
habits of around 1,600 employees working at
Rhodes. The adopted targets are completely at odds
with the results of this survey. Surely this
survey provides the best indication of the likely
transport mode for local workers associated with
the new development, especially as it included the
then 605 Digital employees. Yet this survey is
ignored in this study. In
summary this survey showed that to get to work: ·
Of
the 574 workers west of the railway line,
70.0% used car
and
26.7% used train. ·
Of
the 1043 workers east of the railway line,
87.1% used car
and
10.4% used train. However,
the east side (which included Leeds St plus
Digital) had a much lower percentage of blue
collar workers (12.6% vs 49.1%) which could
explain the reduction in train and increase in car
usage for these workers. If this is correct, the
new development which will have few, if any, blue
collar workers, hence could have an even higher
car percentage and lower train percentage. Although
contemporary employee parking policies may have
influenced this to some extent, nevertheless such
survey figures put serious doubt on the ability
for the target modal choice to be met. Also
the survey showed that of the 1617 workers, only
2.8% lived in the Concord area (much less Rhodes).
Hence the assumption that 10% of workers will walk
or cycle to work (Page 11) is very questionable.
Other reasons this assumption is questioned are: ·
the
increasing lack of job security would see few
workers relocating to very expensive housing just
to be convenient to their place of work, ·
the
anticipated high cost of these residences will
very likely restrict the socio-economic
demographic of the residents and hence the
opportunity to accommodate the majority of workers
in the commercial/retail sector, and ·
due
to the necessary remediation, there is likely to
be a significant lag (6 years or so) between the
southern site (retail/commercial) and the northern
site (the bulk of the residential). Hence there
may be a reduced pool of local residents available
to supply the initial workforce. It
is essential that the Plan includes the results of
this survey and fully verifies, with detailed
supporting evidence, any significant deviation
when estimating transport modal targets. Pages
11 to 13 - Current Train Loading Data Required Although
train load figures may be conveniently available
for Burwood, this section needs to provide a clear
indication of the current loading at Rhodes
Station, not just for the trains stopping there
but for the express trains which now pass through
Rhodes. Section
5 should include an assessment of the available
capacity which can be obtained at Rhodes by extra
carriages and extra services, along with the
calculated future patronage attributable to this
development, Digital and other significant
developments on the Main Northern Line. Please see
our additional comments/questions under Page 19
heading. Page
16 - Ryde Bridge Traffic Flows The
entire analysis of traffic flows in this study are
based on 1998 traffic flows and the increases over
those flows due to the development and base
traffic flow. The Ryde Bridge traffic flows given
in Table 4.5 show that the observed maximum
one-way hourly flow in 1998 was 3873 veh/hr and
the 2000 observed maximum flow was 4333 veh/hr.
This 4333 veh/hr is larger than any of the
modelled Ryde Bridge flows after the development
(see the 2006 NETANAL flows). To
suggest that the flow increases due to the
development will result in less Ryde Bridge
traffic than currently occurs, puts serious doubts
over the whole study results. Page
17 - Currently Badly Congested Roads The
statement that traffic can queue from the Blaxland
Rd/Devlin St intersection back through Rhodes
supports our claim to how prone this area
currently is to traffic congestion. Page
18 - Modal Choice Doubts The
demand assumptions suggest that 20% of retail
vehicle trips and 10% of showroom vehicle trips
will be internal. A further 20% seem to walk or
cycle, which will be mainly people in the
development with a small contribution likely from
Liberty Grove and nearby streets. There are no
calculations provided to show what this means in
terms of the number of shoppers who live in the
development. ACTION
DUAP: Please provide data on the
percentage of residents shopping at any one time. Page
19 - Table 5.1 - No support for Shopper
Numbers Table
5.1 gives the estimated transport demand for the
site and the Digital augmentation. The PM peak
person trips per hour (7,120) are 1.82 times that
of the AM peak person trips/hour (3,920). However,
the PM vehicle trips per hour (2,110) are only
1.28 times that of the PM vehicle trips/hour
(1,650) despite some 3,200 shopper trips per hour
only in the PM figures. Unfortunately there are no
calculations provided to show how these figures
have been derived but presumably the difference is
the shoppers of which only a small proportion
appear to be external but not passing trade. Our
quick calculations suggest that only 18% of the
people shopping at any time have specifically
driven there from outside the development. ACTION
DUAP: Please provide the calculations
which support these figures and confirm the
percentage of specific external shoppers. Also
please advise how the 3,200 shopper trips was
derived as this seems significantly less than
average hourly figures (not peak) for other
shopping centres. Page
19 - No Support for Sufficient Rail Capacity
Claim There
is absolutely no supporting evidence for the
statement that the provision of all 8 car trains
and more frequent services “would supply more than sufficient capacity”
to meet the expected increase in rail demand. With
reference to Table 4.4, those new residents
wishing to catch the 7:54, 8:09, 8:27 or 8:38
train will find it difficult to get a seat as
these trains are already (even if 8 cars) on
average loaded to over 100% of seating capacity.
Additional capacity may be available in the
express trains not currently stopping at Rhodes.
However, it is likely these trains are, during
this peak period, already overloaded but no
figures are provided. It
is appreciated that the load figures provided are
for Burwood and that additional capacity may be
available after the Parramatta/Chatswood line
begins. Also workers alighting at Rhodes may
provide space for workers but this may still have
massive impacts for adjacent stations e.g. West
Ryde, Meadowbank, Concord West and North
Strathfield residents which may service the
Newington, Mariners Cove, Millennium Waters etc
developments Regardless,
there is totally insufficient information provided
in this report to support any claim that trains
will be able to carry the additional load. If 24%
of the 2,420 person trips/hour are by train and if
80% of these (say) are city bound then the
additional passengers looking for seats on the
above four trains is 0.24*0.8*2,420 = 465
passengers which brings the load on each of these
trains to 115% yet there is not even a word about
the load from other developments proposed along
the Main Northern Line. ACTION
DUAP:
Please provide the following to support the
claim in the report: ·
current train loadings at Rhodes station,
both stopping and non-stopping ·
estimates of increased patronage due to
this development ·
City Rail confirmation that the capacity
of the system can cope with this development plus
all others proposed which will utilise this line,
including the likely impact of the Parramatta/Chatswood
line ·
the impact on services at other stations,
especially those which may lose express services. Without
such knowledge the statement “more
than sufficient capacity” is available is
totally unsupported and greatly affects the
desired modal split. The provision of a new
station building is totally irrelevant if people
have to watch overcrowded trains pass through the
station. Page
21 - 3 Second Gap The
study refutes the claim that a 3 second gap should
be maintained between vehicles and hence the 1,200
vehicles per hour per lane does not need to be a
design restraint. We accept that design handbooks
refer to much higher flow rates but the fact
remains that the RTA recommends “you should
leave a gap of 3 seconds between your vehicle and
the one you are following”. It is understood
this is also displayed on electronic signs on some
roads. RTA
accident records for the road south of Ryde Bridge
show that in 1988-89, one third of the accidents
and one half of the injuries on this section of
road were due to rear end collisions. To adopt a
design flow of more than 1,200 veh/lane/hr, and
ignore this safety issue, could be considered
unethical, and possibly negligent, design unless
the handbook is altered accordingly. Please
note that the RTA has advised that the design
capacity for the bridge is considered to be a
total of 5,900 vehicles/hr for the whole bridge.
The SCATES analysis suggests that the peak flow
over Ryde Bridge due to the existing conditions
plus this development is around 7,900 veh/hr or
2.7 secs between cars so it fails RTA requirements
on two accounts. RPG
will also be raising these matters with the RTA
separately. Page
24 - Buses Modal Choice Tables
4.1 and 4.3 show that the largest percentage
increase in modal split to work will need to be
buses increasing from an existing 3.2% for Concord
LGA to 10% for the Rhodes site. In fact, it is
likely that the percentage of bus use by existing
Rhodes residents is even much lower as the 3.2%
figure would reflect more the use of buses to
areas away from the railway line, such as Cabarita,
Mortlake etc. Page 13 of the report supports this
with STA indicating that buses are not heavily
patronised. Also the Nov 1990 Rhodes workers
survey says that only 1.6% caught a bus to work. Hence
to achieve the 10% target, bus patronage will need
to increase around 6 to 7 fold. However, this
report predicts massive traffic congestion on the
surrounding roads before this development is
completed. This will no doubt impact greatly on
the viability of bus transport and therefore put
serious doubt on reaching this modal split. Page
24 - Demand Management - Need for Improved
Train Performance The
report is correct in stating that this development
has an opportunity to influence people’s
transport decision making processes before habits
have been formed. Hence it is absolutely essential
that the train system be upgraded prior to their
first trip as one journey on a hot, packed train
(as currently happens too frequently) will quickly
influence their transport choice. To have any
chance of the train modal target being met, the
development cannot begin until it can be proven
that the system can, and will be, sufficiently
upgraded. To date, such proof is totally lacking. Page
26 - Overflow Parking Strategy The
need to restrict parking in the development in
order to attempt to reduce car usage will no doubt
result in excessive overflow parking in
surrounding streets unless mechanisms are put in
place to restrict this. This has clearly been
demonstrated by the massive increase in on-street
parking as a result of the existing Digital and
retail development. ACTION
DUAP: What is being planned to handle
the overflow parking? Perhaps
car usage can be restricted by charging residents
to enter and leave the site, via electronic
tolling, with the proceeds going to contribute to
the road improvements that will be needed. This
would have a double benefit. Page
28 - Private Ferry Service Unlikely It
is stated that an opportunity may exist for a
private ferry service to the site. Yet Page 14
indicates that Sydney Ferries consider the ferry
service a loss making venture and not worthy of
expansion. Accordingly, is it reasonable to expect
that a private service could be established? Page
29 - Totally Inadequate Infrastructure Works The
Scates analysis clearly demonstrates that the road
system surrounding this proposed development is
totally incapable of accommodating the traffic
flows associated with this development, even with
the works proposed in this study, particularly
when considered as part of a plan to over-develop
surrounding areas. This section of the report
suggests that additional works will need to be
considered as development proceeds. However, it is
blatantly clear that this development will have a
huge impact on the traffic in this area.
Accordingly, it should be contributing
significantly to the cost of works to alleviate
this situation. It is inappropriate that such
contribution begins part way through the
development. Hence a serious investigation into
the works required as a result of this and the
other developments in the nearby area should have
been completed prior to approval of any of these
developments. At
a meeting with the Shadow Minister for Urban
Affairs and Planning and RPG representatives, Dr
Dearing of DUAP advised that an estimated $7
million worth of roadworks would be necessary. It
would appear that the significant portion of this
cost is to cover the minimum cost of access into
the site and has little to do with improving local
traffic flows. ACTION DUAP: Could you
please provide an estimate of how the $7 million
is split between the various works. If
not fully funded by the developer, the identified
works will also need to be incorporated into the
future Sydney road plans and budgeted for at this
stage. It is clear that, as an absolute minimum,
grade-separations will need to be provided at the
Homebush Bay Drive/Concord Rd and Concord
Rd/Averill St intersections, and/or that a further
crossing of the Parramatta River is required. ACTION
DUAP: Please provide confirmation that
the RTA is satisfied that the proposed works are
sufficient to accommodate this development and
that there will be no need for additional
State-funded works. Using
the Scates analysis results it appears that the
traffic increases associated with this development
and Digital is the equivalent of around 10 to 15
years of normal regional traffic growth at the
rate estimated in this study. ACTION
DUAP: Please have MWT calculate this
and incorporate the finding in the Plan. Figures
9 and 10 - Inconsistent Flows Although
not shown in the figures, Page 14 states they are
peak hourly traffic flows for 1998. This should be
added to the Figures. In
Figure 9, the northbound flow in Homebush Bay
Drive south of Oulton Ave is 2890. With 12 further
cars entering at Oulton Ave the flow approaching
the Concord Rd intersection should be about 2902
but the Concord Rd intersection detail plan shows
2700. ACTION
DUAP: Which is correct? In
Figure 10, the northbound flow just north of Mary
St is 3435 (3365+66+4). However the flow
approaching the next intersection at Llewellyn St
is 3745 (3671+64+10). Why is there a 9%
difference in this flow? Appendix
A - Overflow Parking Policy Required The
introduction states “However
as roads within areas to the east of the railway
are currently without significant on-street
parking controls there needs to be a balance found
between restriction of development car parking and
potential overparking of surrounding on-street
areas.” This is already clearly evident in
the incidence of on-street parking in Blaxland Rd
presumably associated with the relatively recent
Digital and retail developments. The 1990 Rhodes
worker survey mentioned in our Page 11 comments
should be redone for the Digital site to see how
much parking restrictions have influenced
transport modal choice since that survey. The
threat of massive on-street overflow parking in
surrounding streets due to the proposed parking
restrictions is huge and must be controlled. Should
the strategy to provide an efficient public
transport system and bus interchange at Rhodes be
successful, thereby attracting commuters from
surrounding areas, there is likely to be the need
for a large commuter parking facility yet none
seems to be proposed. The
suggestion that a retail parking charge be
introduced (after two hours say) will probably see
the limited visitor parking spaces in the
development being used for this and commercial
employee purposes unless restricted. Appendix
B - Discrepancies and No Explanations of
Claims On
Page B-1 it is stated that with a 55% car modal
share, the commercial vehicle trip generation will
be 1.3 vehicles/100m2 GFA. However, Page A-1
calculates the use of cars for commercial purposes
as 1.78 vehicles/100m2 i.e. 37% higher. ACTION
DUAP: Why is there a discrepancy and
which value has been used in the overall traffic
flow assessments? In
the table on Page B-1, the 55% figures differ
greatly from those shown in Table 5.1. Presumably
the difference comes from the application of
internal, passing, dual purpose journeys etc, but
throughout the report there is not one definite
table with supporting calculations which enable
this to be verified. The table also clearly
indicates the sensitivity to the modal target of
55%. Given that the 1990 survey suggests that
possibly in excess of 90% of Rhodes workers drive
to work, a contingency plan covering the
situation, if the target is not met, is vital and
yet there is none given. Under
the table it is stated that the AM trips have been
added to the NETANAL figures however, there is no
mention of the PM figures. The
VKT graph seems to be pulled out of thin air and
makes unsupportable claims. It cannot be seen how
the 55% target reduces the VKT by 5,000 vehicle
kms nor can it be seen from what it reduces. The
closing paragraph on Page B-2 re the shorter
average trip length is irrelevant if travel times
and fuel consumption are greater due to the
increased congestion near Rhodes. Additional
vehicle sourced pollution will be worse and
concentrated in locations close to high-density
development. Appendix
C - No Reference to 1990 Worker
Survey/Overcrowded Trains/Intentional Road
Congestion Page
C-1 refers to the 1996 Census and the 1991 Home
Interview Travel Survey the data in which forms
the basis of Appendix C. However, there is no
mention of the comprehensive 1990 Rhodes workers
survey (see Page 11 comment), from which one can
infer that around 90% of the then employees of the
Digital site drove to work. Surely this is some of
the most applicable data available for this site
and cannot be ignored without an updated survey. Page
C-13 lists the main factors influencing a
person’s choice to catch a train to work. It is
surprising that overcrowding of trains does not
rate a mention. We are aware that this is a common
complaint amongst ourselves and friends/colleagues
who catch trains. Once you have to stand,
especially in crowded conditions, it generally
prohibits reading, working or sleeping on the
train; all common uses of the travel time. Throughout
the Annexure to Appendix C there is a suggestion
that public transport usage can be increased by
increasing congestion on the roads. ACTION DUAP: Is this a
Government policy? Appendix
D - Discrepancies and Lack of Information Page
D-4 lists the expected increases in households and
jobs within the Concord area. ACTION
DUAP: How have these increases been
included in assessing the increased traffic on the
Rhodes road system? The figures seem to ignore
the other developments outside Concord, including
(but not limited to) Newington (approx 1200 more
residences to be occupied), Broadoak Waters (700
residences), Millennium Waters (1,800 residences)
and the recently announced Olympic site. It would
seem necessary that these developments, which are
concentrated in the area, be considered separately
from the overall regional road increases. It is
considered that these developments would have a
significant impact on traffic flows, infinitely
more than the reduction due to the Western Sydney
Orbital. On
Page D-4 the significance of providing 2006
NETANAL results does not appear to be explained. ACTION
DUAP: Presumably the 2016 figure
represent full development but could you please
explain the significance of 2006 (which also
appears to represent full development) and what
background traffic growth is associated with both
2006 and 2016? The NETANAL has three cases 1998,
2006, & 2016 but the SCATES has five runs.
Also please advise how they are related i.e. which
NETANAL flows are used for which SCATES runs. Page
D-5 states that the SCATES model used the proposed
intersection layouts plus additional improvements
to signal operations. However, there is no mention
of what signal operations are adopted for the
modelling. Although subsequent changes can be
made, alterations of signal phasing are of great
interest to the local community and should be
included. ACTION
DUAP: Please advise of the light timing
assumptions. Table
D.8 contains several questionable entries. The
most significant is why does the Alfred St
intersection have a better performance in Run 5
(full development + 18 years base traffic flow
growth) than both Runs 3 and 4, where Run 3
represents full development with no base traffic
flow growth. In fact, the SCATES print out in
Appendix 4 shows the flow through this
intersection increases by around 19% from Run 3 to
5, but the delay appears to drop from 62 to 49
secs. ACTION
DUAP: Please explain this discrepancy. On
Page D-8, Table D.11 means little without: ·
an
explanation of what each category means (e.g. are
the retail employees included in commercial or
retail/showroom). Table 5.1 includes separately
commercial, retail/showroom workers, and shoppers
with there being no shopper traffic assumed in the
AM. Table D.11 does not have a separate shopper
category for AM (or PM) yet the retail/showroom
has equal numbers entering and leaving in both AM
and PM when Table 5.1 indicates no shopper
traffic. ·
the
assumptions used which may or may not be the same
as those given for the previous study on Page 18 ·
calculations
of how person trips are determined and how vehicle
trips are derived from the person trips. Without
a good explanation of these most important figures
the usefulness of this document is greatly
diminished. ACTION
DUAP: Please provide the above
information. Page
D-8 mentions that future Sydney road network
improvements will affect local traffic flows yet
fails to list what these are and clearly express
whether they have been included in the results
given. ACTION
DUAP: Please advise what improvements
are assumed. Table
D.16, a repeat of Table D.8, shows the Level of
Service for each intersection but fails to show
the assumed light phasing, the delay associated
with each level of service, the degree of
saturation of each intersection etc. The SCATES
results in Table D.11 provides average delay
figures. ACTION DUAP: Are these
average for the worst peak hour flows or average
for a three hour period (say)? Does the SCATES
also provide maximum, not average, delays? The
SCATES results in Appendix 4 show that delays up
to 583 secs can be expected at the location
currently experiencing 196 secs, despite the
improvements, yet both are rated the maximum F
level of service. These delays must be inserted in
the main report in Table 5.2 along with the degree
of saturation ratings, which are horrendous in
some cases. ACTION
DUAP:
Why haven’t the degrees of saturation
and average delays been provided for the five runs
in Table D.16? The
SCATES analysis does not mention the Homebush Bay
Drive/Oulton Road intersection at all possibly as
there appears to be no lights proposed. There does
not appear to be a mention of whether this
intersection will have lights for the right turn
into Oulton Avenue and what impact this has on the
SCATES analysis which ignores this intersection.
There is no figure showing the number of vehicles
turning right here into Oulton Ave nor any figure
which allows this to be calculated. In fact, using
the Ryde Bridge/Concord Rd/Homebush Bay Drive (HBD)
splits shown on Page 20, it appears the 2016 AM
NETANAL plots are grossly in error. The southbound
flow along HBD just south of the Concord Rd
intersection appears to show that Oulton Ave must
add 635 vehicles to provide the indicated increase
in HBD flows (i.e. 2655 to 3290). Hence, even if
there are no vehicles turning right into Oulton
Ave, there will need to be 635 vehicles turning
right out of Oulton Ave using the slip road into (HBD).
These 635 vehicles represent 78% of all the AM
outflows from the site, yet the Page 20 flow
distributions show around only 33% will be going
down HBD. If any cars turn right into Oulton Ave
from HBD, even more cars need to turn right to
maintain continuity of flow in HBD. It is not
clear whether these NETANAL flows have been used
in the SCATES analysis but if so, this apparent
over-estimate of HBD flows could cause a
significant error. ACTION
DUAP: Please explain whether our
assessment of this situation is correct, whether
the NETANAL intersection flows, as shown, are
correct, and whether these flows have been used in
the SCATES analysis? Appendix
1 - NETANAL Plots Discrepancies and Doubts ACTION
DUAP:
Has there been any allowance for flows in the
Homebush Bay/Oulton Road intersection for traffic
either entering or leaving Liberty Grove? We
can think of reasons for including or excluding
these flows but what has been assumed by MWT. There
are many dubious flows in the plots. Some of these
are: 1998
AM:
The south bound flow in Concord Rd just south of
Homebush Bay Drive is more than that for both 2006
and 2016. However, there does appear to be a
significant increase in southbound traffic in
Homebush Bay Drive. In fact, between 1998 and 2006
there is a 59% increase in flow here. Similarly
there is only a 3% increase in southbound flow
over Ryde Bridge between 2006 and 2016. Yet the
assumption on Page 20 is that 50% or 40% of the
traffic entering/leaving the area (depending on
whether residential or other) does so from/to the
north. ACTION DUAP: What
assumptions have been made and what support is
there? 1998
AM and PM:
The flows over Ryde Bridge are significantly
different than the maximums given in Table 4.5 on
Page 16. ACTION
DUAP: Is this because the north and
southbound flow maximums occur at different times? 2016
AM:
Table D.11 shows that 133 residential vehicles
leave the southern site and 499 leave the northern
site each hour i.e. a total of 632 vehicles. Page
20 assumes 50% of residential trips go north i.e.
a total of 316 vehicles. With almost 80% living in
the northern sector, it would be reasonable to
assume that at least 80% of these 316 vehicles
(i.e. 253) would leave Averill St and travel north
over Ryde Bridge. However, the plot shows only 117
leaving Averill St of which some proportion may go
south. ACTION
DUAP: Please explain this; why is there
a 64% increase in flows southbound along Homebush
Bay Drive over those in 1998, and why is the city
bound flow in Victoria Rd (2343) less than for
1998 (2502)? 2016
PM: The northern sector is
predominantly residential and hence it would be
reasonable to expect minimal out-going flow in the
PM from the northern area. Presumably
shopping/commercial traffic will be discouraged
from leaving via Averill St which would require
driving through the residential area. ACTION
DUAP: Hence why is there almost 4 times
as many cars leaving Averill St (499) than in the
morning? The SCATES results (discussed later)
show that these PM vehicles are subjected to
absolutely ridiculous delays. Appendix
2 - Questions on Intersection Improvements ACTION
DUAP:
Will the additional right turn lane southbound
in Concord Rd at Averill St require property
acquisition? Will
the Homebush Bay Drive/Oulton Ave intersection
have light control? If yes, why hasn’t this
intersection been included in the SCATES analysis?
If no, how many veh/hr are assumed to be turning
right from Concord Rd into the site against two
lanes of traffic flowing at 3208 veh/hr (i.e. only
2.25 secs apart)? Liberty Grove residents in the
high rise near this intersection would be tempted
to turn right here adding to the traffic flows.
Accordingly are the right turn lanes long enough
to store the right turning traffic? Is it possible
that lights will be required soon after occupation
occurs thereby impacting on the SCATES analysis?
Why is no slip road planned for these cars as a
permanent solution? ACTION
DUAP: Please provide answers to the
above questions. Appendix
3 - Traffic Flow Discrepancies All
plans confusingly label the leftmost intersection
as Homebush Bay Drive (HBD). This suggests the
main “straight” through road is Concord Rd
where it is actually HBD with the side street
being Concord Rd South. ACTION
DUAP:
For the Llewellyn St intersection (AM), why
does the northbound Concord Rd through flow drop
as a result of the development and base growth
(1998: 3357, 1998 + devel: 3085, 2016: 3195)? ACTION
DUAP:
For the Mary St intersection (PM), why does the
northbound Concord Rd through flow drop massively
(over 17%) as a result of base traffic growth
(1998 + devel: 3823, 2016: 3160)? It
is possible (probably quite likely) that other
anomalies exist but an answer to these will
suffice at this stage. Appendix
4 - SCATES Results - Discrepancies and Further
Information Required The
major findings of this appendix must be included
in the main body of the report i.e. Section 5.
There are very significant findings here that the
community has a right to know without having to
wade through complicated, unexplained computer
output. The
brief explanation at the start of each sheet, does
not make it clear whether the delays etc consider
the interaction between intersections. ACTION
DUAP: Could you please elaborate? No
Degree of Saturation (DS) figures have been given
in the main body of the report. Other traffic
studies indicate that an intersection is
satisfactory at a DS of 0.7 but queues and delays
increase rapidly as DS approaches 1. By 2016, the
study shows the PM DS for the Averill St
intersection will be 3.84. Other
concerns include: ·
In
Runs 3 and 5 the average PM delays in Concord Rd
at Averill St are slightly greater than those in
Averill St. ACTION
DUAP: Could you please confirm that
this means priority, by light timing, is being
given to Averill St traffic. If so, on what basis
is this assumption made? ·
In
Run 5 the average PM delays for this Averill St
intersection are almost certainly incorrect, i.e.
the delay in Concord Rd is 0 secs and that in
Averill St is 10165 secs. This is totally
different to those mentioned above which are
around 50 to 80 secs for both roads. ACTION
DUAP: Please confirm this is an error
or explain the results. Due
to the reduction in development size, the
increased flows due to the development + Digital
is about 60% of that adopted in the Arup study.
The difference in flows at the northern boundary
of the MWT SCATES model between {1998} and {1998 +
development + Digital} results should give the
approximate increase in traffic flows over Ryde
Bridge due to the development + Digital. However
when these are compared with the increases given
in the Arup report for AM and PM, northbound and
southbound, it seems they range from 14% to 40% of
the Arup Ryde Bridge increases, not 60%. ACTION
DUAP: Please explain this very
significant difference. To
provide a better indication of the impact on the
road system, the report must include the increase
in overall travel time through this section of
road and the anticipated queue lengths. From
the SCATES analysis flows, if you subtract the
Case 3 flows from the Case 5 flows you get an
indication of the background growth, which
averages out about 22%. Applying this increase to
the 2000 AADT you get an estimated AADT for 2016
of around 87,000. With other AADT figures obtained
from other reports etc, a plot of AADT vs year can
be obtained (see below). Also
plotted is a reasonable extrapolation of the
pre-2000 values. However, even a less but still
conservative extrapolation would produce a 2016
AADT well above the assumption used in this TMP.
In reality, such an AADT is unlikely to occur as
this regional road will be totally gridlocked all
peak periods. A
sensitivity study of the impact of background
growth on future traffic flows, intersection
performance and delays is essential if the
capacity for the regional road system to provide
the necessary infrastructure is to be assessed.
ACTION
DUAP:
Please explain why, based on the past AADT
growth, such a ridiculously low background growth
has been.assumed for this analysis. Also why does
DUAP consider that this regional road network
provides the infrastructure necessary to satisfy
the SEPP 32 requirement of urban consolidation
developments being placed near existing
infrastructure when it is blatantly clear this
road will be unusable unless a further crossing of
Parramatta River is provided? What is the
Government’s intentions and commitment to such a
crossing? |
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